1 00:00:33,742 --> 00:00:34,743 Let me help you. 2 00:00:34,826 --> 00:00:37,495 Oh, I can get it. J-Just show me. 3 00:00:37,829 --> 00:00:39,189 This one's been acting up all day. 4 00:00:39,998 --> 00:00:43,168 - Then you shouldn't let people use it. - You gotta really get in there. 5 00:00:46,838 --> 00:00:47,838 Poetry, huh? 6 00:00:48,381 --> 00:00:51,101 You really need to put an "Out of Order" sign on it. 7 00:00:51,217 --> 00:00:52,217 This is only half. 8 00:00:53,386 --> 00:00:54,786 All right. Well, take the original. 9 00:00:54,846 --> 00:00:56,556 I need the other half. 10 00:00:57,265 --> 00:01:00,226 - The Xerox guy's gonna have to clear it. - Then call one. 11 00:01:00,810 --> 00:01:02,937 That's my property. I'm not leaving without it. 12 00:03:04,225 --> 00:03:07,979 The bodies were dismembered, stuffed in trash bags, 13 00:03:08,062 --> 00:03:10,565 and spent between two and six weeks in the Hudson River. 14 00:03:12,150 --> 00:03:14,194 None of the six victims was ever identified. 15 00:03:14,277 --> 00:03:15,945 Cause of death never determined. 16 00:03:16,029 --> 00:03:17,906 Police were able to trace, 17 00:03:18,615 --> 00:03:20,074 uh, the articles of clothing 18 00:03:20,158 --> 00:03:23,536 to a fetish shop on Christopher Street that catered to the leather community. 19 00:03:24,370 --> 00:03:25,872 And there's the Lambda tattoo. 20 00:03:25,955 --> 00:03:27,290 Maybe he was a Greek scholar. 21 00:03:27,373 --> 00:03:30,293 Paul Bateson frequented the gay bars in the Meatpacking District, 22 00:03:30,376 --> 00:03:32,296 but police could never connect him to the bodies. 23 00:03:32,337 --> 00:03:33,880 He was only convicted for one murder 24 00:03:33,963 --> 00:03:36,507 because he called a journalist and confessed to it. 25 00:03:36,591 --> 00:03:38,760 The final victim, Addison Verrill. 26 00:03:38,843 --> 00:03:41,054 Who was not dismembered and stuffed in a bag, 27 00:03:41,137 --> 00:03:43,824 so why should we talk to this guy if we don't even know he did these? 28 00:03:43,848 --> 00:03:46,142 Because he told a friend he was the Bag Murderer. 29 00:03:46,226 --> 00:03:47,560 And that he liked to kill. 30 00:03:47,810 --> 00:03:52,148 Isn't someone who practices SandM already equating arousal with violence? 31 00:03:52,232 --> 00:03:53,608 - He's just a step... - S/M. 32 00:03:55,777 --> 00:03:58,780 The correct terminology is S/M. Sadomasochism. 33 00:03:59,155 --> 00:04:00,573 Not "sado and masochism." 34 00:04:01,950 --> 00:04:05,662 S/M is primarily the exchange of power between a dominant and a submissive. 35 00:04:05,745 --> 00:04:08,706 Pain and violence are just two types of currency within that exchange. 36 00:04:08,790 --> 00:04:12,543 There's also humiliation, fear, sometimes even tickling. 37 00:04:12,627 --> 00:04:14,067 Tickled to death? Whole new meaning. 38 00:04:14,128 --> 00:04:16,088 The fact that one of the victims wore a dog collar 39 00:04:16,130 --> 00:04:17,890 makes me think our guy likes to be in charge. 40 00:04:17,924 --> 00:04:19,564 Well, due to the condition of the bodies, 41 00:04:19,592 --> 00:04:23,429 we have no evidence of how he killed or whether S/M was even one of his MOs. 42 00:04:23,513 --> 00:04:25,073 Who else would prey on guys like these? 43 00:04:25,098 --> 00:04:27,618 They were into the same stuff, and he gets off on going too far. 44 00:04:27,642 --> 00:04:30,144 Well, this isn't just a case of someone who occasionally 45 00:04:30,228 --> 00:04:33,731 crossed the line of consent. This is a practiced, organized killer. 46 00:04:33,815 --> 00:04:37,110 Dismembering and disposing of the bodies without witnesses? 47 00:04:37,193 --> 00:04:38,873 I mean, that takes planning and commitment. 48 00:04:38,903 --> 00:04:40,783 Well, there's no denying his victim pool 49 00:04:40,822 --> 00:04:42,907 is specific to what gives him sexual pleasure. 50 00:04:42,991 --> 00:04:45,469 - But they're low-hanging fruit for him. - I'll say. 51 00:04:45,493 --> 00:04:48,413 He's accepted in their environment, and he knows how to lure them. 52 00:04:48,496 --> 00:04:49,848 They actually want to be tied up. 53 00:04:49,872 --> 00:04:52,184 So you're saying his victim selection is about opportunity. 54 00:04:52,208 --> 00:04:53,936 I'm just saying that it would be interesting 55 00:04:53,960 --> 00:04:55,086 to find out how essential 56 00:04:55,169 --> 00:04:57,755 his sexual practices were to how he killed. 57 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:58,839 And why. 58 00:04:59,507 --> 00:05:01,426 You know, was sadomasochism... 59 00:05:02,051 --> 00:05:04,887 just a convenient way for Bateson to find his victims, 60 00:05:04,971 --> 00:05:07,331 - or was it fundamental to his... - That's Atlanta. 61 00:05:08,766 --> 00:05:09,934 It's the police commissioner. 62 00:05:10,685 --> 00:05:13,021 As Jackson said, we would like to applaud 63 00:05:13,813 --> 00:05:16,107 the decision made by the Department of Justice 64 00:05:16,524 --> 00:05:18,860 to open an FBI investigation 65 00:05:18,943 --> 00:05:20,486 into Atlanta's missing 66 00:05:20,570 --> 00:05:21,696 and murdered children. 67 00:05:22,739 --> 00:05:24,657 Director Webster has assured me 68 00:05:24,907 --> 00:05:27,744 that the bureau will coordinate with our own task force 69 00:05:27,827 --> 00:05:31,581 and make their abundant resources available to our city. 70 00:05:33,791 --> 00:05:35,626 We've already been to Atlanta once. 71 00:05:35,835 --> 00:05:37,075 We've done the background work. 72 00:05:37,128 --> 00:05:38,314 The vice president's placing 73 00:05:38,338 --> 00:05:40,006 the highest priority on this. 74 00:05:40,089 --> 00:05:42,943 I don't want us to look like we're running a research project down there. 75 00:05:42,967 --> 00:05:43,801 Absolutely not. 76 00:05:43,885 --> 00:05:45,511 We're there to get convictions. 77 00:05:45,595 --> 00:05:48,306 All right, Ted. I'll call Wyman, tell him we're sending the BSU 78 00:05:48,389 --> 00:05:50,600 instead of that third canine unit he wants. 79 00:05:51,017 --> 00:05:52,518 They better be house-trained. 80 00:05:52,602 --> 00:05:54,402 And on a short leash. You have my word. 81 00:05:57,398 --> 00:05:58,316 That was... 82 00:05:58,399 --> 00:05:59,400 Director Webster. 83 00:06:00,109 --> 00:06:03,988 The president doesn't want child murder lingering over his first 100 days, 84 00:06:04,072 --> 00:06:05,990 so he's throwing George Bush at this. 85 00:06:07,158 --> 00:06:08,826 The director wants to be sure 86 00:06:09,285 --> 00:06:11,871 the bureau comes out smelling good to this administration. 87 00:06:11,954 --> 00:06:13,706 And it came down to us or Lassie. 88 00:06:14,082 --> 00:06:15,124 Essentially. 89 00:06:15,541 --> 00:06:17,603 Holden, I'd like you there as soon as possible. Bill, 90 00:06:17,627 --> 00:06:18,878 you can fly out Monday, 91 00:06:19,337 --> 00:06:21,339 right after the directors' retreat. 92 00:06:21,756 --> 00:06:23,508 Webster's going out on a limb. 93 00:06:23,591 --> 00:06:26,761 He needs to understand who we are, have assurance in what we can do. 94 00:06:26,844 --> 00:06:27,678 Yes, sir. 95 00:06:27,762 --> 00:06:30,139 We're budgeted through the end, so pack accordingly. 96 00:06:30,223 --> 00:06:32,433 They're following 17 cases. 97 00:06:32,517 --> 00:06:34,268 That could be a while. 98 00:06:34,352 --> 00:06:36,896 If Webster's involved, he's going for closure. 99 00:06:38,147 --> 00:06:39,227 We want to be part of that. 100 00:06:40,441 --> 00:06:43,236 Go do what you do, but as we've learned, 101 00:06:43,319 --> 00:06:45,071 our methods are not always gonna be received 102 00:06:45,154 --> 00:06:47,240 with unbridled enthusiasm, so... 103 00:06:47,323 --> 00:06:48,323 Play nice. 104 00:06:48,366 --> 00:06:49,367 Play smart. 105 00:06:53,371 --> 00:06:54,371 Bill. 106 00:06:58,376 --> 00:06:59,794 We will be okay. 107 00:07:01,170 --> 00:07:02,170 Yes, sir. 108 00:07:07,093 --> 00:07:09,971 How are we supposed to fulfill Gunn's expansive vision 109 00:07:10,054 --> 00:07:11,514 if he keeps sending you away? 110 00:07:11,931 --> 00:07:13,891 This time it comes from the very top. 111 00:07:14,350 --> 00:07:18,187 Well, I can select support staff, but I can't recruit and train agents. 112 00:07:18,271 --> 00:07:21,524 I need to be back in town every Friday for some things with Brian. 113 00:07:21,941 --> 00:07:24,444 I'll spend the afternoon here, do what I can. 114 00:07:25,194 --> 00:07:26,571 You and Gregg take Bateson. 115 00:07:26,654 --> 00:07:27,989 Keep the interviews going. 116 00:07:28,448 --> 00:07:30,783 You're going to leave Holden alone three days a week? 117 00:07:31,159 --> 00:07:33,578 He's down there on his own till Monday as it is. 118 00:07:33,661 --> 00:07:35,663 Gunn wants me at the directors' retreat. 119 00:07:35,746 --> 00:07:37,790 I mean, last time he managed to get you tossed out, 120 00:07:37,874 --> 00:07:38,791 and you were with him. 121 00:07:38,875 --> 00:07:40,001 I'll call Jim Barney. 122 00:07:40,668 --> 00:07:43,087 Ask him to be Holden's wingman till I get there. 123 00:07:43,379 --> 00:07:44,464 It's three days. 124 00:07:45,131 --> 00:07:46,132 Exactly. 125 00:07:55,308 --> 00:07:57,477 Nance? 126 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,980 Back here! Jeez. 127 00:08:08,154 --> 00:08:12,158 Want some dinner? There's spaghetti and one chicken leg. 128 00:08:12,408 --> 00:08:14,785 No, I'm bushed. 129 00:08:17,288 --> 00:08:18,288 How's Bri? 130 00:08:18,581 --> 00:08:19,581 He's fine. 131 00:08:21,751 --> 00:08:22,752 How was your day? 132 00:08:23,044 --> 00:08:24,045 Super. 133 00:08:26,005 --> 00:08:27,005 How super? 134 00:08:28,090 --> 00:08:30,760 It was fine. Um, hand me that bag. 135 00:08:36,974 --> 00:08:37,974 Thanks. 136 00:08:52,573 --> 00:08:53,658 Is it that bad? 137 00:08:53,741 --> 00:08:55,243 Three times this week. 138 00:08:55,910 --> 00:08:58,120 If he wets again tonight, I'm throwing them out. 139 00:08:58,788 --> 00:08:59,705 I got cheapies. 140 00:08:59,789 --> 00:09:02,768 - Jesus. Brian hasn't wet the bed for... - Three years and five months. 141 00:09:02,792 --> 00:09:04,460 Believe me, I remember. 142 00:09:06,170 --> 00:09:08,631 Today I found him playing with his baby toys. 143 00:09:08,714 --> 00:09:09,714 Three Men in a Tub. 144 00:09:10,007 --> 00:09:11,717 It's like he's going backwards. 145 00:09:11,801 --> 00:09:13,594 Just when he was getting some independence. 146 00:09:14,262 --> 00:09:16,138 Suddenly, I'm potty training again. 147 00:09:16,222 --> 00:09:18,140 Let's talk to Dr. Moritz tomorrow. 148 00:09:18,641 --> 00:09:21,521 - Maybe it's part of the process. - Oh, I haven't packed you yet. 149 00:09:21,894 --> 00:09:23,896 But your suit's back from the cleaners. 150 00:09:23,980 --> 00:09:26,691 It's okay. I'll pack. Don't worry about it. 151 00:09:26,774 --> 00:09:28,359 Oh, have you spoken to Gunn today? 152 00:09:31,696 --> 00:09:34,073 Bill, you need to take time off. 153 00:09:34,156 --> 00:09:36,075 Brian needs you. I need help with him. 154 00:09:37,034 --> 00:09:38,744 Honey, I just found out today: 155 00:09:39,036 --> 00:09:41,289 after the retreat, I have to go to Atlanta. 156 00:09:41,372 --> 00:09:44,125 We've opened an investigation into the murders there. 157 00:09:44,208 --> 00:09:45,543 I don't have a choice. 158 00:09:47,378 --> 00:09:48,378 Okay. 159 00:09:57,138 --> 00:10:00,057 Look, I'm coming home every Thursday night 160 00:10:00,474 --> 00:10:01,976 for the Friday appointments. 161 00:10:02,518 --> 00:10:03,769 I'll stay all weekend. 162 00:10:04,228 --> 00:10:06,105 - Every week. - I said okay. 163 00:10:07,106 --> 00:10:09,191 You say there's nothing you can do, so... 164 00:10:10,651 --> 00:10:12,028 the decision's been made. 165 00:10:57,365 --> 00:10:59,700 My biggest complaint is I can't get to the Joffrey. 166 00:11:01,786 --> 00:11:03,204 But prison dried me out. 167 00:11:03,287 --> 00:11:06,374 I was draining two bottles of vodka a day till I lost my job. 168 00:11:06,791 --> 00:11:08,668 You were a radiology technician. 169 00:11:09,168 --> 00:11:11,295 Until I was an usher in a porn theater. 170 00:11:12,129 --> 00:11:14,674 Now I'm sober, work out every day. 171 00:11:14,757 --> 00:11:16,842 And mostly they leave me unsupervised. 172 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:20,763 Actually, I'd appreciate a little more discipline. 173 00:11:24,475 --> 00:11:27,061 How did you meet Addison Verrill? 174 00:11:28,312 --> 00:11:29,939 Sitting at the bar at The Anvil. 175 00:11:30,398 --> 00:11:31,607 We were doing poppers. 176 00:11:31,691 --> 00:11:33,109 Started talking porn. 177 00:11:33,567 --> 00:11:35,903 He knew them all. Appreciated the good ones. 178 00:11:36,737 --> 00:11:37,571 Good ones? 179 00:11:37,655 --> 00:11:39,990 Anybody can roll a camera on a piece of muscle 180 00:11:40,074 --> 00:11:41,617 plowing some bottom raw. 181 00:11:42,159 --> 00:11:44,120 I can catch that live at The Tunnel. 182 00:11:44,704 --> 00:11:46,914 But there's an art to letting things happen 183 00:11:46,997 --> 00:11:48,040 in the right rhythm. 184 00:11:48,165 --> 00:11:49,917 Finding that bond in violence. 185 00:11:51,961 --> 00:11:52,961 You watch any porn? 186 00:11:55,464 --> 00:11:56,882 Bonding in violence. 187 00:11:58,008 --> 00:12:00,177 Is that how you prefer to relate to people? 188 00:12:01,011 --> 00:12:03,055 On a deeper level, probably. 189 00:12:04,014 --> 00:12:06,767 - Love is violence. Sex is violence. - Is it? 190 00:12:06,851 --> 00:12:10,146 Every interaction is violence, it's just a matter of scale. 191 00:12:10,229 --> 00:12:12,398 How much of something do we want to feel? 192 00:12:12,815 --> 00:12:15,025 Does it feel good when your lover takes your hand 193 00:12:15,109 --> 00:12:16,569 and you didn't expect it? 194 00:12:17,653 --> 00:12:20,072 Does it feel better when he grabs your nipples? 195 00:12:20,948 --> 00:12:21,948 Twists them? 196 00:12:22,700 --> 00:12:24,577 What did Addison think about violence? 197 00:12:25,578 --> 00:12:26,662 Full into it. 198 00:12:27,329 --> 00:12:29,582 The films he liked, the things he said. I could tell. 199 00:12:29,665 --> 00:12:30,745 Is that why you picked him? 200 00:12:30,791 --> 00:12:34,044 - No, we pick each other, don't we? - But he was your type. 201 00:12:34,128 --> 00:12:35,421 No, not really. 202 00:12:35,838 --> 00:12:37,423 Usually, I don't like swishes. 203 00:12:37,506 --> 00:12:39,049 They give us all a bad name. 204 00:12:40,843 --> 00:12:43,262 Addison was holding court at the bar. 205 00:12:43,846 --> 00:12:46,140 He could've left with anyone, but he stuck with me. 206 00:12:47,475 --> 00:12:48,559 That was nice. 207 00:12:49,685 --> 00:12:53,773 When you went back to his apartment, had you already decided to kill him? 208 00:12:54,982 --> 00:12:55,816 No. 209 00:12:55,900 --> 00:12:58,527 We smoked some weed. Drank some of his Scotch. 210 00:12:58,694 --> 00:13:00,279 Had lots of sex. 211 00:13:01,614 --> 00:13:04,992 He liked it rough. That's how they knew it was me. 212 00:13:05,075 --> 00:13:07,036 When I called that reporter, 213 00:13:07,912 --> 00:13:10,039 I told him the couch and rug were covered in Crisco. 214 00:13:11,081 --> 00:13:13,042 Police hadn't figured out what it was. 215 00:13:14,293 --> 00:13:15,377 What happened after? 216 00:13:18,088 --> 00:13:19,340 I hadn't come down yet. 217 00:13:21,050 --> 00:13:23,052 He asked me if I wanted a joint. 218 00:13:23,928 --> 00:13:26,514 I hit him with a skillet, and then I stabbed him. 219 00:13:27,097 --> 00:13:30,267 Was that the natural conclusion of an arousal experience for you? 220 00:13:33,437 --> 00:13:35,981 The "rough" sex that you had, 221 00:13:36,065 --> 00:13:37,775 did it build in intensity? 222 00:13:38,025 --> 00:13:39,318 - Was... - Sure. 223 00:13:39,735 --> 00:13:41,529 You always wanna have somewhere to go. 224 00:13:42,029 --> 00:13:43,364 Pain is the release. 225 00:13:43,948 --> 00:13:47,326 The fear... that's what you want to play with. 226 00:13:48,035 --> 00:13:50,538 So, was killing Addison an extension of the sexual violence? 227 00:13:50,621 --> 00:13:52,164 No, we were done. 228 00:13:52,248 --> 00:13:53,415 Wore ourselves out. 229 00:13:55,292 --> 00:13:56,836 You can only go for so long. 230 00:13:57,753 --> 00:13:59,213 Then why did you kill him? 231 00:14:06,554 --> 00:14:08,264 It... It wasn't a... 232 00:14:09,723 --> 00:14:11,100 soul act for him. 233 00:14:13,978 --> 00:14:15,338 I was looking for real connection. 234 00:14:15,396 --> 00:14:17,398 Was The Anvil 235 00:14:17,481 --> 00:14:19,942 a place that you had found a real connection before? 236 00:14:20,025 --> 00:14:21,025 No. 237 00:14:21,652 --> 00:14:23,404 But there's always that moment... 238 00:14:24,697 --> 00:14:27,074 where something might turn into the real thing. 239 00:14:28,242 --> 00:14:29,326 It just didn't. 240 00:14:32,329 --> 00:14:34,123 That's what we're all looking for. 241 00:14:35,082 --> 00:14:36,083 Connection. 242 00:14:36,166 --> 00:14:38,669 When you went out, were you a dominant or a submissive? 243 00:14:39,086 --> 00:14:41,922 - Those days, I was a total top. - Those days? 244 00:14:42,006 --> 00:14:45,759 I started off as a bottom. Most do. That's... how you learn what to do. 245 00:14:45,843 --> 00:14:47,553 What a bottom wants to feel. 246 00:14:47,636 --> 00:14:48,637 How far you can go. 247 00:14:48,721 --> 00:14:52,975 So you were practiced at finding that moment when things could turn... 248 00:14:53,559 --> 00:14:56,270 into nothing or into connection, 249 00:14:56,353 --> 00:14:58,522 or perhaps into deeper violence. 250 00:15:02,526 --> 00:15:03,819 The Bag Murders, 251 00:15:03,903 --> 00:15:07,281 six leathermen dumped in the Hudson in garbage bags. 252 00:15:07,990 --> 00:15:10,534 Do you think that the person who killed those men 253 00:15:10,951 --> 00:15:12,411 could've been experimenting? 254 00:15:13,037 --> 00:15:15,623 Seeing how it felt to go too far? 255 00:15:15,706 --> 00:15:17,875 They keep trying to get me for those. 256 00:15:20,002 --> 00:15:21,211 Gay guy into leather. 257 00:15:21,795 --> 00:15:24,173 - So imaginative. - It's more than that. 258 00:15:24,590 --> 00:15:27,801 You also worked in a hospital. You had some training in anatomy, 259 00:15:28,260 --> 00:15:29,637 access to medical instruments. 260 00:15:29,720 --> 00:15:31,600 I wasn't squeamish if that's what you're asking. 261 00:15:31,639 --> 00:15:34,767 - But I wasn't a surgeon. - You did confess to a friend. 262 00:15:34,850 --> 00:15:37,519 You... actually told him, verbatim, 263 00:15:38,729 --> 00:15:40,022 "I like to kill." 264 00:15:40,189 --> 00:15:41,482 Ugh. God... 265 00:15:41,649 --> 00:15:44,568 We were all so fucked up at the time. 266 00:15:46,820 --> 00:15:50,115 The cops actually said if I confess, I would do less time on a plea deal. 267 00:15:50,199 --> 00:15:52,284 - Less time? - Crazy, right? 268 00:15:52,368 --> 00:15:54,453 They just want to say they closed the books. 269 00:15:54,536 --> 00:15:55,663 Keep the queens happy. 270 00:15:55,746 --> 00:15:56,664 But I got news: 271 00:15:56,747 --> 00:16:00,042 the queens want this to be some uptight straight guy. 272 00:16:00,417 --> 00:16:01,961 Why would they care who it is? 273 00:16:02,044 --> 00:16:04,546 Perceptions matter when you're an "aberration," Anita. 274 00:16:09,009 --> 00:16:10,761 We can't be seen as eating our own. 275 00:16:11,470 --> 00:16:13,639 Do you think it was an angry straight guy? 276 00:16:15,182 --> 00:16:17,601 Leathermen can smell a straight guy a mile away. 277 00:16:18,102 --> 00:16:19,520 No one would go anywhere with him. 278 00:16:19,603 --> 00:16:21,748 Clubbers are looking for guys who know what they're doing. 279 00:16:21,772 --> 00:16:23,732 So the killer would be experienced. 280 00:16:23,816 --> 00:16:25,526 He'd be cruising for the guy... 281 00:16:25,943 --> 00:16:28,195 that wants exactly what he wants to give. 282 00:16:29,613 --> 00:16:32,282 He's watched a thousand guys, gone home with hundreds. 283 00:16:32,783 --> 00:16:35,536 Feeling for the right pulse, the right quickening of breath. 284 00:16:37,287 --> 00:16:40,791 He's looking for the guy that just wants it. 285 00:16:40,874 --> 00:16:42,042 Nobody wants to die. 286 00:16:42,126 --> 00:16:45,713 No, but some want to feel what it's like to almost die. 287 00:16:47,464 --> 00:16:49,216 They let you go just a bit further. 288 00:16:51,552 --> 00:16:52,636 Might even beg you. 289 00:16:53,178 --> 00:16:54,513 And that would excite him? 290 00:16:54,972 --> 00:16:56,056 Of course. 291 00:16:56,390 --> 00:16:59,768 So he would know the victims, may have been with them intimately before. 292 00:16:59,852 --> 00:17:01,812 Why waste time on an unknown? 293 00:17:02,980 --> 00:17:04,523 And then what would he do? 294 00:17:06,191 --> 00:17:07,191 And then... 295 00:17:09,486 --> 00:17:10,529 he works 'em. 296 00:17:12,406 --> 00:17:13,406 Hard. 297 00:17:14,992 --> 00:17:16,410 Until there's a connection. 298 00:17:16,869 --> 00:17:18,245 What sort of connection? 299 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:24,251 Well, that's the mystery. 300 00:17:25,586 --> 00:17:27,212 It's trust with fear. 301 00:17:27,671 --> 00:17:28,964 Complete vulnerability. 302 00:17:29,506 --> 00:17:32,301 He lets the master take him just across that line. 303 00:17:32,885 --> 00:17:33,885 How? 304 00:17:36,221 --> 00:17:37,514 How would he kill him? 305 00:17:37,598 --> 00:17:39,933 How long would he take? What would he use? 306 00:17:40,017 --> 00:17:41,560 What marks would he leave? 307 00:17:44,563 --> 00:17:46,291 Everyone in the scene's into their own thing. 308 00:17:46,315 --> 00:17:48,567 You'd have to ask him. Alan. 309 00:17:49,234 --> 00:17:50,569 - Yeah. - I'm ready. 310 00:17:50,861 --> 00:17:52,341 All right. Let's move him out. 311 00:17:58,494 --> 00:18:01,455 Only your killer would know that. 312 00:18:35,989 --> 00:18:37,366 Good morning. 313 00:18:58,846 --> 00:18:59,846 Holden. 314 00:19:00,472 --> 00:19:01,472 Jim! 315 00:19:01,682 --> 00:19:02,766 This has grown. 316 00:19:02,850 --> 00:19:04,619 Looks like they've narrowed it down to half the city. 317 00:19:04,643 --> 00:19:07,604 They're all over the map on this. Smells like desperation. 318 00:19:07,688 --> 00:19:10,232 We got a real lead last night. You should hear it. 319 00:19:11,733 --> 00:19:13,461 A whole generation of Negro wiped out 320 00:19:13,485 --> 00:19:15,279 with each one of these dead kids. 321 00:19:15,362 --> 00:19:17,990 You'll find the last one in the woods by Sigman Road. 322 00:19:18,282 --> 00:19:20,701 And you can count on another one every month from now on. 323 00:19:20,784 --> 00:19:21,803 Sir, can you give me 324 00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:23,745 the exact location of... 325 00:19:23,829 --> 00:19:25,247 Sir? Sir? 326 00:19:31,128 --> 00:19:32,296 I can't say. 327 00:19:33,130 --> 00:19:34,756 They all sound the same to me. 328 00:19:35,757 --> 00:19:36,675 Just meanness. 329 00:19:36,758 --> 00:19:38,510 Sorry to make you listen to that. 330 00:19:38,594 --> 00:19:39,720 Thank you, Beverly. 331 00:19:44,683 --> 00:19:46,393 Y'all still looking for my Earl? 332 00:19:47,186 --> 00:19:49,563 He'd be 11 now. Might be taller. 333 00:19:49,646 --> 00:19:50,480 Yes ma'am. 334 00:19:50,564 --> 00:19:52,357 You can be sure we're lookin'. 335 00:20:00,157 --> 00:20:01,575 Call came in last night. 336 00:20:02,659 --> 00:20:05,662 Staked out a three-mile stretch of Sigman Road overnight... 337 00:20:05,746 --> 00:20:06,747 nothin'. 338 00:20:07,289 --> 00:20:10,250 First light, put in search teams on the ground and in the air. 339 00:20:10,334 --> 00:20:13,045 We have agents questioning known Klan members in the area. 340 00:20:13,128 --> 00:20:15,088 We'll find the body, but, uh, Jim here says 341 00:20:15,172 --> 00:20:17,257 you might be able to help us find the caller. 342 00:20:17,341 --> 00:20:19,444 - You won't find a body. - Oh, I'll find it. 343 00:20:19,468 --> 00:20:22,095 Got 250 searchers working grids, canine units. 344 00:20:22,179 --> 00:20:24,097 There is no body. He's not your man. 345 00:20:25,682 --> 00:20:27,684 - Excuse me? - It might be the same caller 346 00:20:27,768 --> 00:20:30,088 as the Terrell case, but he's not your killer. It's a hoax. 347 00:20:32,189 --> 00:20:34,650 You can tell me that by listening to a tape once? 348 00:20:34,733 --> 00:20:36,944 Same tape we've been listening to since midnight? 349 00:20:37,027 --> 00:20:38,027 Think about it. 350 00:20:38,362 --> 00:20:41,949 The entire purpose of organizations like the Klan is to sow terror. 351 00:20:42,032 --> 00:20:44,576 Why would they wait until number 18 to claim responsibility? 352 00:20:44,660 --> 00:20:47,746 Young man, I've been dealing with the Klan my whole life. 353 00:20:47,829 --> 00:20:50,749 Sometimes their only purpose is to kill whatever black person 354 00:20:50,832 --> 00:20:52,251 they can get their hands on. 355 00:20:52,376 --> 00:20:53,794 I have no good reason to doubt this 356 00:20:53,877 --> 00:20:55,597 just because it's not what you want to hear. 357 00:20:55,671 --> 00:20:57,751 But then why call the police, not the press? 358 00:20:58,257 --> 00:21:01,301 We've learned from Berkowitz, the Zodiac... they want a story. 359 00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:03,303 Lasting mythology. 360 00:21:03,887 --> 00:21:05,681 To find that, they go straight to the press. 361 00:21:05,764 --> 00:21:08,392 It makes the police look like they're the last to know. 362 00:21:10,269 --> 00:21:12,229 That sounds like a grand theory, Agent Ford. 363 00:21:12,312 --> 00:21:13,981 Like you put a lot of thought into it 364 00:21:14,064 --> 00:21:15,857 in the two minutes we've been standing here. 365 00:21:15,941 --> 00:21:19,027 But I'm operating on the actual fact that five days ago... 366 00:21:20,070 --> 00:21:21,989 Lubie Geter, number 18, 367 00:21:22,072 --> 00:21:25,617 was dropped off at a mall parking lot to sell car deodorizers. 368 00:21:25,701 --> 00:21:27,119 He never came home. 369 00:21:27,494 --> 00:21:29,371 His mama calls me twice a day. 370 00:21:31,498 --> 00:21:33,959 Besides him, I got four other boys still missing... 371 00:21:34,459 --> 00:21:39,256 numbers six, eight, twelve, and fourteen, in case you don't wanna remember names. 372 00:21:39,339 --> 00:21:41,717 And this call is the only lead we got. 373 00:21:42,217 --> 00:21:43,217 Are you coming? 374 00:21:58,692 --> 00:21:59,692 Brian... 375 00:22:00,444 --> 00:22:03,030 can you tell me why you took the boys to the house? 376 00:22:10,412 --> 00:22:12,414 Was it because the baby was crying? 377 00:22:13,707 --> 00:22:16,293 Did you think you could make him feel better in the house? 378 00:22:20,130 --> 00:22:21,131 It's okay, Bri. 379 00:22:21,214 --> 00:22:22,734 You can talk to the doc... 380 00:22:29,973 --> 00:22:32,309 Do you remember the boys holding the baby? 381 00:22:37,898 --> 00:22:40,025 Did you think they were trying to help him? 382 00:22:41,902 --> 00:22:43,278 To make him stop crying? 383 00:22:54,790 --> 00:22:57,584 It's best for them to know no one will answer for them. 384 00:22:57,876 --> 00:22:58,876 I understand. 385 00:22:58,919 --> 00:23:01,755 Is it necessary to make him remember everything? 386 00:23:02,255 --> 00:23:04,424 Well, it may be uncomfortable for us, 387 00:23:04,508 --> 00:23:06,760 but it allows him to relate to his feelings 388 00:23:06,843 --> 00:23:08,345 in an accepting environment. 389 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,393 His teacher says Brian isn't participating in class 390 00:23:14,476 --> 00:23:16,395 and has no interaction with his peers. 391 00:23:16,478 --> 00:23:20,107 - You spoke with Brian's teacher? - Miss Leland did a class visit. 392 00:23:20,357 --> 00:23:22,442 - What she observed... - Excuse me. 393 00:23:22,818 --> 00:23:24,528 She was in his class? 394 00:23:25,112 --> 00:23:28,198 Caseworkers have no obligation to inform you of school visits. 395 00:23:36,581 --> 00:23:38,875 Have you noticed changes in his behavior? 396 00:23:41,211 --> 00:23:43,338 Brian has started wetting his bed again... 397 00:23:43,797 --> 00:23:44,797 on occasion. 398 00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:46,049 Almost every other night. 399 00:23:46,133 --> 00:23:49,052 Even one event tells us a lot about a patient's progress. 400 00:23:49,136 --> 00:23:50,262 Like what? 401 00:23:50,929 --> 00:23:52,013 What does it tell us? 402 00:23:52,472 --> 00:23:54,933 - Well, secondary enuresis is most... - Secondary what? 403 00:23:55,267 --> 00:23:56,810 Uh, enuresis. Uh... 404 00:23:57,018 --> 00:23:59,479 Bed-wetting subsequent to successful toilet training. 405 00:24:00,021 --> 00:24:02,524 The most common cause is psychological trauma. 406 00:24:03,066 --> 00:24:05,110 He's sleeping with his baby toys, 407 00:24:06,361 --> 00:24:07,821 things he hasn't touched in years. 408 00:24:08,238 --> 00:24:12,033 Emotional regression can also be a marker for processing extreme distress. 409 00:24:13,076 --> 00:24:15,745 - Is there anything else? - He's been sucking his thumb. 410 00:24:21,501 --> 00:24:24,588 I'm prescribing a low dose of desmopressin for the bed-wetting. 411 00:24:24,671 --> 00:24:25,839 You want him to take a pill? 412 00:24:25,922 --> 00:24:27,602 It's important he doesn't develop behaviors 413 00:24:27,674 --> 00:24:29,968 that place him in a regressed emotional state. 414 00:24:33,138 --> 00:24:34,264 And you need to set limits. 415 00:24:34,723 --> 00:24:35,599 If he wets the bed, 416 00:24:35,682 --> 00:24:37,402 make him responsible for washing the sheets. 417 00:24:37,476 --> 00:24:39,144 Isn't he gonna think we're punishing him? 418 00:24:39,227 --> 00:24:41,563 Well, you're helping him to deal with what he experienced 419 00:24:41,646 --> 00:24:42,772 instead of displacing it. 420 00:24:42,856 --> 00:24:44,483 Brian never mentions it. 421 00:24:45,025 --> 00:24:47,360 The other day we drove by the house where it happened. 422 00:24:47,444 --> 00:24:50,447 He watched it go by, and he blurted out, "I want pancakes." 423 00:24:51,490 --> 00:24:54,284 Is trauma really what's causing him to wet the bed? 424 00:24:54,367 --> 00:24:57,871 Isn't it possible that making him come to a doctor's office once a week, 425 00:24:58,413 --> 00:25:01,291 having some woman show up at his school and stare at him, 426 00:25:01,374 --> 00:25:02,792 - giving him pills... - Nance. 427 00:25:02,876 --> 00:25:06,087 ...isn't it possible that those things are making him regress? 428 00:25:06,171 --> 00:25:08,715 He's reminded every day that he's not normal. 429 00:25:09,925 --> 00:25:13,595 If he was at home, doing the things he used to do... 430 00:25:13,678 --> 00:25:16,264 Kids get over stuff. They forget. 431 00:25:16,348 --> 00:25:17,474 Mrs. Tench, 432 00:25:18,808 --> 00:25:21,895 children do not simply forget trauma. 433 00:25:22,896 --> 00:25:24,523 No one simply forgets. 434 00:25:45,585 --> 00:25:47,337 Let me get that for you, sir. 435 00:25:48,922 --> 00:25:51,007 - Hey, thanks. - A pleasure, sir. 436 00:26:00,850 --> 00:26:03,186 - I'm with the bureau retreat. - Yes, sir. 437 00:26:03,979 --> 00:26:06,940 Bill. You're just getting here? 438 00:26:07,607 --> 00:26:08,607 Cutting it close. 439 00:26:08,942 --> 00:26:11,653 I wanted to clear off my desk before leaving town, sir. 440 00:26:11,736 --> 00:26:14,239 The judge's plane took off late, so you get a little reprieve. 441 00:26:14,322 --> 00:26:15,365 The judge? 442 00:26:15,448 --> 00:26:17,768 Director Webster was a judge before his appointment. 443 00:26:17,951 --> 00:26:21,830 He prefers his judicial title, which, in rules of protocol, takes precedence. 444 00:26:22,747 --> 00:26:24,916 He is a man who appreciates pecking order. 445 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:26,000 Good to know. 446 00:26:26,626 --> 00:26:29,129 The judge's advance. Gentlemen, how long? 447 00:26:29,212 --> 00:26:30,505 Pulling in now, sir. 448 00:26:30,589 --> 00:26:32,024 - There you are. - Thank you. 449 00:26:32,048 --> 00:26:33,216 It's good to be king. 450 00:26:33,717 --> 00:26:34,759 Yes, it is. 451 00:26:35,802 --> 00:26:38,597 The schedule has you in for an hour, but keep it to 40 minutes. 452 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,599 And... maybe lose the jacket and tie. 453 00:26:41,182 --> 00:26:43,018 These retreat symposia are 90 percent retreat, 454 00:26:43,101 --> 00:26:44,352 ten percent symposia. 455 00:26:45,228 --> 00:26:46,605 I'll buy you a little time. 456 00:26:47,063 --> 00:26:49,691 - Judge. - Ted, great to see you. 457 00:26:50,483 --> 00:26:53,203 - You already got a round in. - And Wyman owes us all a drink. 458 00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:56,573 - We'll cut you in. - Mm, okay, then. Gentlemen. 459 00:27:04,789 --> 00:27:05,789 Brian. 460 00:27:09,878 --> 00:27:11,588 Brian, your sandwich is ready. 461 00:27:29,189 --> 00:27:30,189 Brian? 462 00:27:40,075 --> 00:27:41,076 Brian? 463 00:27:49,334 --> 00:27:50,335 Brian! 464 00:27:57,384 --> 00:27:58,384 Brian! 465 00:28:04,307 --> 00:28:05,307 Adele! 466 00:28:06,184 --> 00:28:07,477 Have you seen Brian? 467 00:28:17,112 --> 00:28:18,112 Brian? 468 00:28:20,699 --> 00:28:21,699 Brian! 469 00:28:25,954 --> 00:28:27,622 Did you hear me calling you? 470 00:28:37,549 --> 00:28:38,717 Go on, honey. 471 00:28:39,342 --> 00:28:40,343 Go on. 472 00:28:40,802 --> 00:28:42,387 You can go play with her. 473 00:28:44,055 --> 00:28:45,055 Come on, Paige. 474 00:28:46,099 --> 00:28:47,142 It's time to go. 475 00:28:49,602 --> 00:28:53,189 Come on, honey. Grandma's waiting for us. 476 00:29:00,363 --> 00:29:03,158 Brian, we don't stare. Remember? 477 00:29:03,241 --> 00:29:04,241 It's impolite. 478 00:29:05,702 --> 00:29:06,828 Look at me. 479 00:29:08,663 --> 00:29:10,290 I need you to come home... 480 00:29:10,874 --> 00:29:11,875 so we can... 481 00:29:41,029 --> 00:29:43,948 - Delta Sector, report. - Chief Redding, I feel like we... 482 00:29:44,032 --> 00:29:45,867 Delta Sector report negative. 483 00:29:46,701 --> 00:29:48,381 ...sector report negative. 484 00:29:48,453 --> 00:29:52,415 Sir, chopper needs to refuel. He suggests suspending for the night. 485 00:29:56,127 --> 00:29:57,962 All sectors, all sectors, suspend. 486 00:29:58,046 --> 00:30:00,673 - Y'all start coming on in. - Copy that. 487 00:30:01,174 --> 00:30:02,693 - No body. - Come on, bring it in, guys! 488 00:30:02,717 --> 00:30:04,153 - That what you wanted to hear? - Let's go! 489 00:30:04,177 --> 00:30:06,012 No, sir. It's not. 490 00:30:06,095 --> 00:30:07,764 It's bad if you don't find one. 491 00:30:08,723 --> 00:30:09,933 Worse if you do. 492 00:30:10,016 --> 00:30:11,976 I wanted to say, I feel like we started off wrong. 493 00:30:12,018 --> 00:30:15,188 - You could say that. - I only meant we don't wanna waste our... 494 00:30:16,147 --> 00:30:17,941 your resources on every tip. 495 00:30:18,483 --> 00:30:20,443 Over the past year, I've pulled children's bodies 496 00:30:20,527 --> 00:30:23,446 out of creek beds, woods, vacant buildings. 497 00:30:23,530 --> 00:30:25,257 Chief, we'll be opening the road here 498 00:30:25,281 --> 00:30:27,367 - as things clear out. - Roger. 499 00:30:27,450 --> 00:30:29,828 We have thousands of acres of untended property. 500 00:30:30,453 --> 00:30:32,705 When we get any lead that narrows it to one road, 501 00:30:32,789 --> 00:30:34,415 I have no choice but to take it. 502 00:30:34,499 --> 00:30:36,859 We've learned things about how these types of killers think. 503 00:30:37,168 --> 00:30:38,211 We can anticipate them, 504 00:30:38,294 --> 00:30:40,713 focus on their next move instead of just reacting. 505 00:30:40,964 --> 00:30:43,324 We have a meeting Monday morning with all the jurisdictions. 506 00:30:43,383 --> 00:30:45,927 You have a way to narrow things down, happy to hear it. 507 00:30:46,010 --> 00:30:47,887 Now I have to go brief the mayor. 508 00:30:47,971 --> 00:30:49,806 Shit. 509 00:30:50,098 --> 00:30:51,266 Stay back! 510 00:30:51,349 --> 00:30:55,270 Chief Redding! Chief Redding, has there been another body found? 511 00:30:55,353 --> 00:30:57,873 - Did the FBI initiate this search? - We heard about a phone call. 512 00:30:57,897 --> 00:30:59,315 Did you find a body? 513 00:30:59,399 --> 00:31:01,401 I have no statement at this time. 514 00:31:02,485 --> 00:31:03,838 Was there a body found? 515 00:31:03,862 --> 00:31:05,381 Did the FBI call for this search? 516 00:31:05,405 --> 00:31:08,449 Will the FBI work with APD, or are you running your own investigation? 517 00:31:08,533 --> 00:31:11,536 Any leads? Any suspects? 518 00:31:11,619 --> 00:31:12,871 Any more leads? 519 00:31:16,165 --> 00:31:18,918 It's a local case, Ted. It's gotten national attention. 520 00:31:19,002 --> 00:31:22,338 The bureau responding to this is like a tail wagging the dog. 521 00:31:22,422 --> 00:31:24,382 Agent Tench, 522 00:31:25,049 --> 00:31:28,428 you're going down there. What can your unit bring to this case? 523 00:31:29,137 --> 00:31:31,472 Well, sir, we'll be looking for connections. 524 00:31:32,307 --> 00:31:33,987 We think some of these cases may be linked. 525 00:31:34,058 --> 00:31:36,120 Sir, the work these guys are doing is groundbreaking. 526 00:31:36,144 --> 00:31:37,562 They've interviewed Manson. 527 00:31:37,854 --> 00:31:39,856 Manson's crazier than a shithouse rat. 528 00:31:41,608 --> 00:31:43,818 Can we really learn from someone like him, Agent? 529 00:31:43,902 --> 00:31:46,070 We've also interviewed more cogent subjects. 530 00:31:46,154 --> 00:31:47,196 Such as? 531 00:31:47,280 --> 00:31:48,364 Ed Kemper. 532 00:31:48,448 --> 00:31:49,657 The Co-ed Killer. 533 00:31:49,741 --> 00:31:52,201 - Beheaded ten college girls. - Well, six actually. 534 00:31:52,285 --> 00:31:53,494 But he did kill ten people. 535 00:31:53,578 --> 00:31:54,704 What was he like? 536 00:31:55,204 --> 00:31:56,247 To talk to? 537 00:31:57,040 --> 00:31:59,334 Well, he's 6'9". 538 00:31:59,417 --> 00:32:00,335 Oh! 539 00:32:00,418 --> 00:32:01,979 So he could be a little intimidating 540 00:32:02,003 --> 00:32:03,880 to sit across from with no guard, 541 00:32:03,963 --> 00:32:05,340 no sidearm, no cuffs. 542 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,092 But you have to develop a level of trust. 543 00:32:08,176 --> 00:32:10,296 One day, we brought a pizza in and had lunch with him. 544 00:32:10,345 --> 00:32:12,430 We're dividing slices while he's telling us 545 00:32:12,513 --> 00:32:14,724 how hard it is to sever a head. 546 00:32:16,225 --> 00:32:19,187 And this guy has hands like catcher's mitts, 547 00:32:19,520 --> 00:32:21,439 and he's sitting three feet away. 548 00:32:21,898 --> 00:32:22,898 How did he do it? 549 00:32:23,399 --> 00:32:24,399 How did he kill 'em? 550 00:32:24,776 --> 00:32:26,152 He picked up hitchhikers, 551 00:32:26,235 --> 00:32:27,904 drove them to a wooded area, 552 00:32:28,529 --> 00:32:30,114 and then stabbed and strangled them. 553 00:32:30,531 --> 00:32:32,659 Then he raped 'em and cut off their heads. 554 00:32:33,076 --> 00:32:34,494 And then he raped the heads. 555 00:32:36,579 --> 00:32:37,997 Why decapitation? 556 00:32:38,081 --> 00:32:39,666 He collected them... 557 00:32:40,625 --> 00:32:41,625 as trophies. 558 00:32:42,418 --> 00:32:44,545 Kemper was the first to make us see 559 00:32:44,629 --> 00:32:48,341 these killers develop a sickening personal signature. 560 00:32:48,424 --> 00:32:52,387 And we're learning these offenders start having fantasies very young. 561 00:32:52,804 --> 00:32:55,723 They practice: dolls, animals. That escalates. 562 00:32:55,807 --> 00:32:58,167 I dealt with my share of criminals from the bench. 563 00:32:58,226 --> 00:33:00,812 Most of them were bad from the start, even as kids: 564 00:33:01,396 --> 00:33:02,605 runaways, loners. 565 00:33:02,689 --> 00:33:03,690 They never fit in. 566 00:33:04,107 --> 00:33:06,526 I always said when I had a juvenile I knew was bad, 567 00:33:06,609 --> 00:33:08,236 I wish I could put him away for life. 568 00:33:09,362 --> 00:33:10,697 You could just see it 569 00:33:10,780 --> 00:33:11,823 in their eyes. 570 00:33:13,908 --> 00:33:14,908 Gentlemen, 571 00:33:15,702 --> 00:33:18,162 they keep a well-stocked humidor behind the bar 572 00:33:18,246 --> 00:33:19,706 that I turned a blind eye to. 573 00:33:20,915 --> 00:33:22,000 Shall we? 574 00:33:39,892 --> 00:33:41,811 - Hello? - Hey, it's me. 575 00:33:41,894 --> 00:33:44,522 It's late. What time is it? 576 00:33:44,605 --> 00:33:45,732 It's almost 10:00. 577 00:33:45,815 --> 00:33:48,735 I just called to check in on you. How's Brian? 578 00:33:49,235 --> 00:33:50,235 Fine. 579 00:33:51,237 --> 00:33:52,237 Now. 580 00:33:52,822 --> 00:33:54,073 What do you mean, "now"? 581 00:33:55,324 --> 00:33:57,452 He got out. I... I couldn't find him. 582 00:33:57,744 --> 00:33:58,578 Got out? 583 00:33:58,661 --> 00:34:01,789 I went door to door. 584 00:34:03,124 --> 00:34:04,792 Finally found him in the park. 585 00:34:06,085 --> 00:34:08,588 He was staring at this child. Just... 586 00:34:10,715 --> 00:34:11,799 staring. 587 00:34:15,094 --> 00:34:16,304 But he scared me. 588 00:34:17,388 --> 00:34:19,015 What do you want me to do, Nance? 589 00:34:19,098 --> 00:34:20,099 Nothing. 590 00:34:21,392 --> 00:34:22,560 Everything's done. 591 00:34:23,352 --> 00:34:24,937 I just... wanted to tell you. 592 00:34:25,438 --> 00:34:27,482 Honey, I don't know what to say. 593 00:34:27,940 --> 00:34:31,069 How about, "I'm gonna take time off to help"? 594 00:34:32,528 --> 00:34:34,447 You know I can't do that right now. 595 00:34:34,655 --> 00:34:35,655 I know. 596 00:34:36,157 --> 00:34:37,200 You have to work. 597 00:34:37,742 --> 00:34:38,785 I just... 598 00:34:39,744 --> 00:34:42,538 honestly don't know if I can do this alone, Bill. 599 00:34:42,622 --> 00:34:43,915 You're not alone. 600 00:34:45,291 --> 00:34:46,417 I have to go to sleep. 601 00:34:59,180 --> 00:35:01,724 Hey, sit down. 602 00:35:01,808 --> 00:35:03,559 - Whiskey, please. - Sure thing. 603 00:35:03,643 --> 00:35:05,394 I still want to hear about Manson. 604 00:35:06,729 --> 00:35:09,232 Make it a double. 605 00:35:11,192 --> 00:35:14,695 "Do you find yourself getting so lost in your own thoughts 606 00:35:14,779 --> 00:35:17,615 that you ignore and forget your surroundings? 607 00:35:18,074 --> 00:35:19,117 All the time. 608 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,409 Some of the time. 609 00:35:20,493 --> 00:35:21,536 Occasionally. 610 00:35:21,619 --> 00:35:22,662 Never." 611 00:35:24,163 --> 00:35:25,206 - Wen. - Huh? 612 00:35:25,289 --> 00:35:28,459 Should I answer for you? I think I have a good shot at this one. 613 00:35:30,503 --> 00:35:33,047 - Where'd you get that? - Found it on a bus. 614 00:35:33,172 --> 00:35:34,841 - Ew. - Come on, it'll be fun. 615 00:35:35,174 --> 00:35:36,634 I'm gonna mark that one as... 616 00:35:37,176 --> 00:35:38,386 "some of the time." 617 00:35:39,637 --> 00:35:42,306 Uh... "Is it difficult to get you excited?" 618 00:35:42,390 --> 00:35:44,350 Oh, you should probably answer that one. 619 00:35:44,433 --> 00:35:46,495 Come on, you have to take this seriously, or the results won't be accurate. 620 00:35:46,519 --> 00:35:49,313 I find it kind of difficult to take a Myers-Briggs test seriously, 621 00:35:49,397 --> 00:35:52,024 especially one that has a panty liner ad on the back of it. 622 00:35:53,067 --> 00:35:54,235 I should just focus on this. 623 00:35:54,318 --> 00:35:55,921 Come on. There's only a couple left. 624 00:35:55,945 --> 00:35:58,656 "Do you find yourself initiating conversations?" 625 00:35:58,739 --> 00:35:59,991 - Yes. - Really? 626 00:36:00,074 --> 00:36:02,326 Yeah. I initiated conversation with you. 627 00:36:02,410 --> 00:36:03,744 Because you wanted to fuck me. 628 00:36:03,828 --> 00:36:05,830 I initiate conversations all day. 629 00:36:05,913 --> 00:36:07,999 Oh, an interview's not a conversation. 630 00:36:08,082 --> 00:36:10,960 You know, whose test is this? Yours or mine? 631 00:36:11,043 --> 00:36:12,795 I'm just trying to get to know you. 632 00:36:12,879 --> 00:36:15,149 It feels a little like you're trying to get to correct me. 633 00:36:15,173 --> 00:36:18,342 Well, would you rather tell me about whatever it is 634 00:36:18,426 --> 00:36:20,094 that you're burying your face in? 635 00:36:22,305 --> 00:36:23,848 I'm sorry, ask me another one. 636 00:36:25,141 --> 00:36:26,141 No. 637 00:36:27,226 --> 00:36:28,226 Come on. 638 00:36:29,437 --> 00:36:30,797 Tell me about what you're reading. 639 00:36:31,355 --> 00:36:33,566 It's the, uh... It's the Bateson interview. 640 00:36:34,025 --> 00:36:35,943 - Okay. - Mm. 641 00:36:38,946 --> 00:36:41,908 It's just a fine line of giving them enough attention 642 00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:43,284 so that they'll engage with you, 643 00:36:43,367 --> 00:36:45,536 but also being able to steer the conversation. 644 00:36:46,287 --> 00:36:48,456 And when it's over in just a few minutes, it... 645 00:36:48,539 --> 00:36:49,624 Wasn't worth the effort? 646 00:36:49,707 --> 00:36:51,627 He was surprisingly forthcoming in the beginning. 647 00:36:51,709 --> 00:36:54,545 He answered every question, even volunteered information. 648 00:36:55,046 --> 00:36:57,673 But when I got to the questions I really wanted to ask, 649 00:36:57,757 --> 00:36:59,050 he just walked out. 650 00:36:59,133 --> 00:37:00,509 So he rope-a-doped you? 651 00:37:00,968 --> 00:37:03,363 - I don't know what that means. - Rumble in the Jungle? 652 00:37:03,387 --> 00:37:05,806 You know, when Ali let George Foreman punch himself out. 653 00:37:05,890 --> 00:37:08,392 Yeah. Sure, he, uh, "rope-a-doped" me. 654 00:37:08,476 --> 00:37:12,730 Oh, I'm sure he had plenty of practice leading people down the garden path. 655 00:37:13,189 --> 00:37:14,815 No, I should have seen it coming. 656 00:37:14,899 --> 00:37:16,567 I mean, I've been studying manipulators 657 00:37:16,651 --> 00:37:18,319 - my whole career. - Oh. 658 00:37:19,570 --> 00:37:20,570 On paper. 659 00:37:28,579 --> 00:37:31,225 No, I'm... I'm just saying that you... you don't have to be an expert 660 00:37:31,249 --> 00:37:33,084 at everything the first time. 661 00:37:34,543 --> 00:37:35,543 Huh. 662 00:37:36,295 --> 00:37:37,838 It's just a bit disappointing. 663 00:37:42,802 --> 00:37:45,638 Another sad chapter in the epidemic of child murders 664 00:37:45,721 --> 00:37:47,640 unfolded today in Rockdale County 665 00:37:47,723 --> 00:37:51,352 where the FBI conducted an unsuccessful search along Sigman Road. 666 00:37:51,435 --> 00:37:53,938 Channel 2 has been unable to confirm reports 667 00:37:54,021 --> 00:37:57,191 that a man called in a tip about where a body could be found. 668 00:37:57,275 --> 00:37:59,610 The FBI and police had no comment. 669 00:38:00,486 --> 00:38:03,739 Meanwhile, the search for 14-year-old Lubie Geter continues. 670 00:38:04,323 --> 00:38:05,700 That's it for us tonight. 671 00:38:05,783 --> 00:38:07,034 It's 10:30. 672 00:38:07,118 --> 00:38:08,995 Do you know where your children are? 673 00:38:13,582 --> 00:38:16,752 I always want you present in the local room 674 00:38:16,836 --> 00:38:19,797 where my reporters and Mr. Wallace Cook 675 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:23,217 can drink you in constantly 676 00:38:23,301 --> 00:38:25,386 as a warning against fakes! 677 00:38:39,275 --> 00:38:41,277 Agent Ford. 678 00:38:43,738 --> 00:38:44,738 Tanya. 679 00:38:45,573 --> 00:38:47,408 Hi. 680 00:38:49,285 --> 00:38:51,704 I thought that was you. I saw you'd checked in, 681 00:38:51,787 --> 00:38:53,205 for a while it looks like. 682 00:38:53,372 --> 00:38:54,415 Until it's over. 683 00:38:55,916 --> 00:38:57,335 I was expecting you sooner. 684 00:38:57,418 --> 00:39:00,046 I came the moment they opened an official FBI investigation. 685 00:39:02,214 --> 00:39:03,299 And... 686 00:39:04,383 --> 00:39:06,783 you should know we've moved beyond looking into the families. 687 00:39:08,054 --> 00:39:11,599 I came down specifically to refocus the APD's efforts. 688 00:39:12,016 --> 00:39:14,310 I saw on the news someone called about a body. 689 00:39:14,935 --> 00:39:15,935 He a suspect? 690 00:39:16,729 --> 00:39:18,356 I can't say officially, but... 691 00:39:18,439 --> 00:39:21,650 A man calls to tell you he did it, you may want to consider him. 692 00:39:24,362 --> 00:39:26,655 I'm not at liberty to discuss details, but... 693 00:39:28,699 --> 00:39:31,410 my unit is here to focus on 694 00:39:31,494 --> 00:39:35,373 - what we consider most probable. - Most probable for each child? 695 00:39:35,748 --> 00:39:37,308 They all got different things going on. 696 00:39:37,375 --> 00:39:40,711 Some of them hustling jobs here and there. Carrying groceries, running errands. 697 00:39:40,795 --> 00:39:42,981 A few of them might've gotten themselves into situations 698 00:39:43,005 --> 00:39:45,257 - they didn't know were dangerous. - What does that mean? 699 00:39:45,341 --> 00:39:48,636 You looking at where these kids work? Parking lots, drive-throughs? 700 00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:49,970 I'm sure we will. 701 00:39:51,222 --> 00:39:54,809 Our most recent was seen selling car deodorizers outside a mall. 702 00:39:55,351 --> 00:39:56,394 Lubie Geter. 703 00:39:56,477 --> 00:39:57,561 Right. 704 00:39:57,645 --> 00:39:59,605 Not all of 'em have car deodorizers to sell. 705 00:39:59,688 --> 00:40:01,065 They do whatever they can. 706 00:40:01,148 --> 00:40:02,358 What do you mean? Drugs? 707 00:40:02,441 --> 00:40:04,360 There's drugs, panhandling. 708 00:40:04,443 --> 00:40:07,405 Some kids learn to steal little things and sell them. 709 00:40:08,614 --> 00:40:11,033 Folks have been saying that a few of these boys 710 00:40:11,117 --> 00:40:12,743 could be selling themselves. 711 00:40:12,827 --> 00:40:14,870 These kids are 11, 12. 712 00:40:14,954 --> 00:40:17,206 Every kid is told to watch out for strangers. 713 00:40:18,666 --> 00:40:21,836 Most have no idea how dangerous some strangers can be. 714 00:40:23,295 --> 00:40:24,964 All I'm sayin' is... 715 00:40:25,047 --> 00:40:27,216 ...you all should be looking at those people too. 716 00:40:31,053 --> 00:40:33,764 This is the Omni. Tanya speaking. How may I help you? 717 00:40:36,934 --> 00:40:38,227 Absolutely. One moment. 718 00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,787 - Morning. - Good morning. 719 00:42:23,958 --> 00:42:26,335 What do you know about child prostitution in Atlanta? 720 00:42:26,418 --> 00:42:27,836 I know it goes on. 721 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:29,213 The same as any big city. 722 00:42:30,673 --> 00:42:32,466 It's not something I've dealt with, 723 00:42:33,175 --> 00:42:34,593 but I can ask Atlanta PD. 724 00:42:35,886 --> 00:42:36,720 Why? 725 00:42:36,804 --> 00:42:39,890 I need files on known pedophiles in the greater Atlanta area. 726 00:42:39,974 --> 00:42:42,309 Sure. We can look into that. 727 00:42:45,813 --> 00:42:47,606 It looks like greater Atlanta just walked in. 728 00:42:48,399 --> 00:42:50,401 Gonna be interesting to see how they take to us. 729 00:42:50,484 --> 00:42:52,486 There's no reason for them not to want our help. 730 00:42:54,029 --> 00:42:55,029 Bill! 731 00:42:56,574 --> 00:42:57,574 Hey! 732 00:42:58,409 --> 00:42:59,410 Good to see ya. 733 00:42:59,493 --> 00:43:00,493 Welcome, Bill. 734 00:43:00,536 --> 00:43:01,536 This is us. 735 00:43:02,371 --> 00:43:04,123 Sorry to miss first day of school. 736 00:43:04,748 --> 00:43:06,125 What are we starting with? 737 00:43:06,625 --> 00:43:09,295 We're about to walk into a meeting with the county chiefs. 738 00:43:09,378 --> 00:43:12,172 Chief Redding wants our advice on how to focus the investigation. 739 00:43:12,590 --> 00:43:13,590 Sounds good. 740 00:43:17,303 --> 00:43:19,722 For instance, David Berkowitz, Son of Sam, 741 00:43:19,805 --> 00:43:20,889 told us he was compelled 742 00:43:20,973 --> 00:43:24,018 to go back to a specific site where he had killed before. 743 00:43:24,101 --> 00:43:25,894 To physically relive the experience. 744 00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:28,063 You interviewed Son of Sam? 745 00:43:28,147 --> 00:43:29,147 We did. 746 00:43:29,356 --> 00:43:32,484 So the theory is, instead of trying to cover all of Atlanta, 747 00:43:32,568 --> 00:43:35,362 we concentrate on where we believe the killer may return. 748 00:43:35,446 --> 00:43:38,949 We'll deploy teams to canvass previous abduction and dump sites, 749 00:43:39,033 --> 00:43:41,827 narrowing our scope to these higher probability areas. 750 00:43:41,910 --> 00:43:43,871 Go back over all the ground we've already covered? 751 00:43:43,954 --> 00:43:46,182 Neighbors may have seen someone returning to a scene. 752 00:43:46,206 --> 00:43:47,708 Maybe something was moved or left. 753 00:43:47,791 --> 00:43:49,335 Y'all are assuming it's one suspect. 754 00:43:49,418 --> 00:43:51,795 We got 18 cases spread all over kingdom come. 755 00:43:51,879 --> 00:43:55,132 So many murders in the same age and socioeconomic range 756 00:43:55,215 --> 00:43:57,593 is highly improbable without at least some being linked. 757 00:43:57,676 --> 00:43:59,386 That how we're gonna proceed, Chief? 758 00:43:59,470 --> 00:44:01,390 Seems like we're ignoring a lot of possibilities. 759 00:44:01,472 --> 00:44:03,515 Nobody's saying rule anybody out. 760 00:44:04,767 --> 00:44:06,352 But let's focus our manpower. 761 00:44:06,769 --> 00:44:10,356 Chief, this kind of focus means recanvassing 18 abduction and dump sites, 762 00:44:10,439 --> 00:44:12,650 plus reinterviewing dozens of witnesses. 763 00:44:12,733 --> 00:44:14,133 Gonna really stretch your manpower. 764 00:44:14,193 --> 00:44:16,654 We can use academy recruits to fill out the teams. 765 00:44:17,029 --> 00:44:19,239 Only way we'll be able to even half-ass it. 766 00:44:20,449 --> 00:44:21,700 Based on this, 767 00:44:22,868 --> 00:44:25,913 I'm redeploying today's search to a previous dump site... 768 00:44:26,497 --> 00:44:27,498 Redwine Road, 769 00:44:27,581 --> 00:44:29,416 where we found Milton Harvey's remains. 770 00:44:30,125 --> 00:44:33,587 Assemble your teams. See if this amounts to anything. 771 00:44:34,129 --> 00:44:36,674 - Thank you, Chief. - Thank you. 772 00:44:36,757 --> 00:44:38,926 - Thank you. - Thank you, gentlemen. 773 00:44:43,764 --> 00:44:46,975 Remember Earl Terrell? I'd like to work his case. 774 00:44:47,059 --> 00:44:49,746 He's still missing, but I think we could do more than we did for him. 775 00:44:49,770 --> 00:44:52,147 Of course. Mind if I round out your team? 776 00:44:52,231 --> 00:44:53,911 Think I'll join the Chief at the dump site. 777 00:44:53,941 --> 00:44:54,941 Okay. 778 00:44:55,234 --> 00:44:56,819 So he was last seen 779 00:44:56,902 --> 00:44:58,862 at the pool across the park. 780 00:44:59,154 --> 00:45:01,448 It was a long time ago, but do you remember him? 781 00:45:01,532 --> 00:45:02,532 I seen him. 782 00:45:02,866 --> 00:45:04,451 Him and a couple others. 783 00:45:05,369 --> 00:45:07,246 You recall seeing him last summer? 784 00:45:07,663 --> 00:45:09,456 Yeah. Lots of times. 785 00:45:09,540 --> 00:45:11,709 Are you out here on your porch two days a week? 786 00:45:11,792 --> 00:45:13,335 - Three? - Well, if it's hot, 787 00:45:13,419 --> 00:45:14,628 I'm out here every day. 788 00:45:15,087 --> 00:45:17,214 So in the summer, I see everybody. 789 00:45:19,550 --> 00:45:23,303 Sometimes... them kids head down... 790 00:45:24,263 --> 00:45:25,431 that house there. 791 00:45:25,806 --> 00:45:27,766 - The brick house? - Mm-hmm. 792 00:45:27,850 --> 00:45:30,936 And sometimes they go to Elsie's. There. 793 00:45:31,353 --> 00:45:33,153 - That yellow house? - Mm-hmm. 794 00:45:33,981 --> 00:45:36,191 Ma'am, are those glasses prescription? 795 00:45:36,483 --> 00:45:37,943 These are my readers. 796 00:45:38,026 --> 00:45:39,153 For my stories. 797 00:45:39,653 --> 00:45:42,656 Anything else you told the officers before could be helpful. 798 00:45:43,073 --> 00:45:44,950 Weren't no officers come here. 799 00:45:45,033 --> 00:45:46,910 Ain't nobody ask us nothin'. 800 00:45:48,203 --> 00:45:49,913 Thank you, ma'am. You've been very helpful. 801 00:45:49,997 --> 00:45:51,517 - Mm-hmm. - Thank you. 802 00:45:53,083 --> 00:45:54,793 There's no car at the brick house. 803 00:45:55,252 --> 00:45:56,295 Elsie's first. 804 00:45:56,378 --> 00:45:58,088 That's the third person we've talked to 805 00:45:58,172 --> 00:46:00,132 within one block of where this kid disappeared, 806 00:46:00,215 --> 00:46:01,759 and not one of them was interviewed. 807 00:46:01,842 --> 00:46:04,511 Starting to think there's a lot that's dropped through the cracks. 808 00:46:06,263 --> 00:46:08,891 We called and told them Earl came by the day he went missing, 809 00:46:08,974 --> 00:46:10,517 but nobody came askin'. 810 00:46:10,893 --> 00:46:14,480 He was looking for Albert, but Albert wasn't home, so Earl, he left. 811 00:46:15,564 --> 00:46:18,317 Albert, get in here. 812 00:46:23,113 --> 00:46:24,239 Tell 'em about Earl. 813 00:46:27,201 --> 00:46:30,120 Him and Lubie come over to play sometimes. 814 00:46:30,537 --> 00:46:31,371 I wasn't here. 815 00:46:31,455 --> 00:46:32,455 Lubie Geter? 816 00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:34,880 - He and Earl knew each other? - Yeah. 817 00:46:35,793 --> 00:46:38,921 Earl act sometimes like Lubie's big brother, 818 00:46:39,004 --> 00:46:40,172 take him around and stuff. 819 00:46:40,255 --> 00:46:41,423 Where would Earl take him? 820 00:46:41,757 --> 00:46:43,467 You know, just around. 821 00:46:43,842 --> 00:46:45,922 Do you know where else Earl might have gone that day? 822 00:46:47,721 --> 00:46:48,889 It's all right, baby. 823 00:46:48,972 --> 00:46:50,891 They with the FBI. You can tell them. 824 00:46:52,142 --> 00:46:53,142 See? 825 00:46:54,603 --> 00:46:55,603 You wanna hold it? 826 00:46:57,189 --> 00:46:59,233 Anybody else Earl might have gone to play with? 827 00:46:59,858 --> 00:47:01,443 They used to hang with Pat-Man. 828 00:47:01,777 --> 00:47:03,403 Does Pat-Man have a last name? 829 00:47:03,487 --> 00:47:04,738 Won't do no good. 830 00:47:04,822 --> 00:47:07,491 He was... uh, one of them. 831 00:47:07,991 --> 00:47:08,992 One of them? 832 00:47:09,076 --> 00:47:11,787 He was right before Lubie. His real name was Patrick Rogers. 833 00:47:11,870 --> 00:47:13,497 I didn't like him comin' around here. 834 00:47:13,580 --> 00:47:14,998 He too old for these boys. 835 00:47:15,916 --> 00:47:17,626 Anything else you can tell the men? 836 00:47:17,709 --> 00:47:19,503 Excuse me, the ME's heading out 837 00:47:19,586 --> 00:47:21,213 to Redwine Road. They found something. 838 00:47:22,881 --> 00:47:24,132 Thank you so much, ma'am. 839 00:47:29,263 --> 00:47:31,557 Let's get the address for the brick house. 840 00:47:37,062 --> 00:47:39,189 Guys, these remains are less than 100 yards 841 00:47:39,273 --> 00:47:41,692 from where Milton Harvey was dumped 13 months ago. 842 00:47:41,775 --> 00:47:44,444 He's returning to the scene. What's the press doing here? 843 00:47:44,528 --> 00:47:47,088 Get down there and set up a perimeter! This is now a crime scene. 844 00:47:49,575 --> 00:47:50,993 Forensics show up yet? 845 00:47:51,076 --> 00:47:52,995 We don't have a body retrieval unit. 846 00:47:53,328 --> 00:47:55,205 Recruits will collect any evidence. 847 00:47:55,581 --> 00:47:56,665 It's not Lubie Geter. 848 00:47:56,748 --> 00:47:57,791 Been out here too long. 849 00:47:57,875 --> 00:47:59,936 But it could be one of the other three still missing. 850 00:47:59,960 --> 00:48:01,813 Earl Terrell was wearing shorts when he disappeared. 851 00:48:01,837 --> 00:48:02,838 What do you got? 852 00:48:03,714 --> 00:48:05,382 I found these close to the road. 853 00:48:05,465 --> 00:48:08,218 A tennis shoe, one cigarette butt, and a couple of porno mags. 854 00:48:08,302 --> 00:48:09,845 - Porno? - Yes, sir. 855 00:48:09,928 --> 00:48:11,096 Gallery and Penthouse. 856 00:48:11,763 --> 00:48:14,766 There's tire tracks, a heavy vehicle, near where we found 'em. 857 00:48:14,850 --> 00:48:17,269 - Body! Body! - Body! 858 00:48:17,394 --> 00:48:19,194 Come on! Body! 859 00:48:20,981 --> 00:48:23,101 Get this stuff into evidence bags and get some gloves. 860 00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:24,067 Yes, sir. 861 00:48:24,151 --> 00:48:26,486 We need to get a real forensics unit down here. 862 00:48:26,653 --> 00:48:27,988 Three bodies at one site. 863 00:48:28,363 --> 00:48:31,533 It's one guy. And this is his graveyard. 864 00:48:39,291 --> 00:48:41,418 Well, lucky he had a prior. 865 00:48:42,169 --> 00:48:44,463 Never would have traced the prints off those magazines. 866 00:48:45,756 --> 00:48:46,757 A plumber. 867 00:48:47,341 --> 00:48:49,676 Runs his own business out of his rented home. 868 00:48:50,802 --> 00:48:52,054 Short rap sheet. 869 00:48:52,596 --> 00:48:54,574 - One incident of petty theft. - What kind? 870 00:48:54,598 --> 00:48:55,682 Clothing? Personal items? 871 00:48:55,766 --> 00:48:56,766 Tires. 872 00:48:57,351 --> 00:48:59,895 Seemed like he needed a set of 4 when he was 19. 873 00:49:01,313 --> 00:49:03,523 No, uh, prior assault. 874 00:49:05,150 --> 00:49:06,818 No history of racial violence. 875 00:49:07,569 --> 00:49:08,779 Sound like our man? 876 00:49:09,821 --> 00:49:11,698 Wait a minute, this guy's Caucasian. 877 00:49:11,782 --> 00:49:14,868 Doesn't change anything if we can tie him directly to a scene. 878 00:49:15,035 --> 00:49:16,515 We should at least follow up on that. 879 00:49:16,578 --> 00:49:19,289 Those magazines are adult women, not black children. 880 00:49:19,790 --> 00:49:22,376 Even if the labs are positive for semen, it supports nothing. 881 00:49:22,793 --> 00:49:25,921 Holden, we have three bodies within 100 yards of each other. 882 00:49:26,004 --> 00:49:28,757 There's no doubt the unsub's dumping them there. 883 00:49:28,840 --> 00:49:30,884 I'm just saying, before we drag in... 884 00:49:31,385 --> 00:49:34,721 Pickett Yarborough, he's not who we're looking for. 885 00:49:36,848 --> 00:49:38,100 Did we run his car? 886 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,727 White 1975 pickup truck. 887 00:49:40,811 --> 00:49:42,062 No police-type vehicle. 888 00:49:42,145 --> 00:49:43,730 No, but utilitarian. 889 00:49:43,814 --> 00:49:45,959 You could keep a hunting kit without drawing suspicion. 890 00:49:45,983 --> 00:49:47,025 We could surveil him. 891 00:49:47,109 --> 00:49:49,253 If he smells us at all, he'll destroy evidence. 892 00:49:49,277 --> 00:49:50,529 We need to get warrants. 893 00:49:50,988 --> 00:49:52,906 Search his house, his truck. 894 00:49:54,366 --> 00:49:55,826 I think we should bring him in. 895 00:49:56,034 --> 00:49:57,619 Even if it's just to rule him out. 896 00:49:57,703 --> 00:49:59,623 Jim, you're familiar with DA Slaton, are you not? 897 00:50:01,206 --> 00:50:02,791 Slaton's third generation law. 898 00:50:02,874 --> 00:50:04,126 He ain't by the book, 899 00:50:04,918 --> 00:50:06,003 he is the book. 900 00:50:31,319 --> 00:50:33,530 Excuse me, gentlemen, we're closed for an event. 901 00:50:33,613 --> 00:50:35,782 We need to speak with District Attorney Slaton. 902 00:50:35,866 --> 00:50:37,284 If you could point him out to us. 903 00:50:37,367 --> 00:50:39,995 Uh, I'm sorry, we're a private institution. 904 00:50:40,078 --> 00:50:42,372 I'm happy to let Mr. Slaton know you're here, mister... 905 00:50:42,456 --> 00:50:44,458 Special Agents Tench, Ford, and Barney. 906 00:50:44,541 --> 00:50:47,461 Excuse me a moment? Mr. and Mrs. Peteet, right this way. 907 00:50:50,213 --> 00:50:51,213 Well... 908 00:50:51,548 --> 00:50:52,632 enjoy your evening. 909 00:50:53,258 --> 00:50:56,887 Mr. Slaton is making an address at the moment. Excuse me. 910 00:50:56,970 --> 00:50:58,930 Mr. and Mrs. Hamilton, right this way. 911 00:51:00,182 --> 00:51:01,266 I apologize. 912 00:51:02,059 --> 00:51:03,977 If you gentlemen could just wait in... 913 00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:08,398 wait in here, I'll ask if he can see you afterwards. 914 00:51:11,443 --> 00:51:12,443 Thank you. 915 00:51:13,695 --> 00:51:14,946 Mr. and Mrs. Trambley. 916 00:51:16,740 --> 00:51:18,992 We're only going to get Slaton's ear for a minute. 917 00:51:19,076 --> 00:51:21,787 I'll call and see if the labs are back. 918 00:51:21,870 --> 00:51:25,791 It's been my pleasure to serve as chair of the fund drive this season. 919 00:51:26,083 --> 00:51:29,419 I told the board, I can't string two notes together, 920 00:51:29,503 --> 00:51:31,379 but I know good music when I hear it. 921 00:51:31,463 --> 00:51:33,757 Our symphony stands up against any in the country. 922 00:51:34,174 --> 00:51:37,427 New York, Philadelphia, you name it. 923 00:51:37,511 --> 00:51:39,096 Music lover. Who'd have thought? 924 00:51:39,179 --> 00:51:42,307 But no cultural organization can flourish... 925 00:51:43,016 --> 00:51:45,352 without benevolent donors like yourselves. 926 00:51:45,685 --> 00:51:49,523 You are the very lifeblood of the arts in Atlanta. 927 00:51:50,941 --> 00:51:53,902 Yes, my wife wrote that last part for me. 928 00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:55,654 But it's absolutely true. 929 00:51:56,571 --> 00:51:59,908 These musicians are a credit to their community, 930 00:52:00,575 --> 00:52:03,328 to our city, and to the great state of Georgia. 931 00:52:03,829 --> 00:52:07,624 So please, give generously... and enjoy your evening. 932 00:52:07,707 --> 00:52:08,707 Thank you. 933 00:52:12,129 --> 00:52:15,674 Labs are back. No blood, but definite seminal fluid. 934 00:52:15,757 --> 00:52:18,760 Gonna be a hard sell. 935 00:52:27,310 --> 00:52:29,479 I'd hoped since you gentlemen thought it necessary 936 00:52:29,563 --> 00:52:31,356 to pull me out of my wife's event, 937 00:52:31,606 --> 00:52:34,860 which took three months to plan, you'd have a more compelling argument. 938 00:52:34,943 --> 00:52:37,154 Sir, if I can explain our methodology. 939 00:52:37,237 --> 00:52:39,531 I'm an evidence man, Agent Tench. 940 00:52:39,614 --> 00:52:42,325 You have no eyewitness account, no relevant priors, 941 00:52:42,409 --> 00:52:45,745 no evidence directly tying this man to any of the bodies. 942 00:52:46,204 --> 00:52:50,208 Sir, these types of crimes are sexually motivated. 943 00:52:50,292 --> 00:52:53,170 The men who perpetrate them are compelled to repeat the crime... 944 00:52:53,628 --> 00:52:55,839 or to relive the sexual satisfaction 945 00:52:55,922 --> 00:52:59,217 by going to crime scenes and feeling that relief again. 946 00:52:59,301 --> 00:53:01,261 Finding three bodies over time 947 00:53:01,344 --> 00:53:03,680 and a clear-cut scene of self-gratification 948 00:53:03,763 --> 00:53:05,265 at the same remote site... 949 00:53:05,348 --> 00:53:07,243 We're concerned that if we merely surveil, 950 00:53:07,267 --> 00:53:10,270 the suspect will destroy the evidence you'll need to prosecute. 951 00:53:10,353 --> 00:53:12,105 As intriguing as that sounds, 952 00:53:12,772 --> 00:53:16,151 I've never issued warrants based on radical psychological theories. 953 00:53:16,234 --> 00:53:18,778 My constituents trust that I will protect their rights 954 00:53:18,862 --> 00:53:20,572 against unlawful search and seizure. 955 00:53:20,655 --> 00:53:22,824 Lubie Geter has been missing for six days. 956 00:53:23,450 --> 00:53:25,702 We've got no leads and the clock is ticking. 957 00:53:29,247 --> 00:53:30,248 I'll grant your warrants. 958 00:53:31,541 --> 00:53:33,919 But I want no press. 959 00:53:34,669 --> 00:53:35,670 None. 960 00:53:36,213 --> 00:53:39,132 This must remain absolutely silent. 961 00:53:39,466 --> 00:53:40,466 Understood. 962 00:53:43,094 --> 00:53:44,238 - It's okay. - No. 963 00:53:44,262 --> 00:53:46,324 - Baby, don't worry about me. - What's happening? 964 00:53:46,348 --> 00:53:47,867 - It'll be all right. - Don't touch me. 965 00:53:47,891 --> 00:53:49,211 It'll be fine, baby. 966 00:53:49,267 --> 00:53:51,686 - This is a mistake. - Don't you touch me! 967 00:53:51,770 --> 00:53:54,231 Honey! Honey, please just tell me, what's happening? 968 00:53:56,024 --> 00:53:57,609 Don't you touch me. 969 00:53:59,277 --> 00:54:01,437 - It's okay, baby. - Hon... Honey? 970 00:54:01,488 --> 00:54:02,697 Honey, please come back. 971 00:54:04,574 --> 00:54:07,054 He can't know we've got his truck until we get him in the room. 972 00:54:09,329 --> 00:54:10,329 Hey! 973 00:54:12,082 --> 00:54:15,335 - Send him around the block. - Go ahead. Circle around. 974 00:54:27,389 --> 00:54:28,431 I don't know, guys. 975 00:54:37,649 --> 00:54:38,649 Who's going first? 976 00:54:38,984 --> 00:54:39,901 Nobody for a while. 977 00:54:39,985 --> 00:54:42,185 We ought to at least start working through the timeline. 978 00:54:42,237 --> 00:54:44,447 He might have a string of alibis for all we know. 979 00:54:44,531 --> 00:54:47,284 We found it's best to let them wait, especially at night. 980 00:54:47,367 --> 00:54:49,452 If this is the guy, it's the best way to break him. 981 00:54:52,831 --> 00:54:54,124 Where are we with him? 982 00:54:56,418 --> 00:54:57,418 Commissioner. 983 00:55:01,339 --> 00:55:03,341 How confident are we he's our perpetrator? 984 00:55:03,425 --> 00:55:04,968 We won't know until we get in there. 985 00:55:05,051 --> 00:55:07,280 Well, let's start working on him. The longer we keep him, 986 00:55:07,304 --> 00:55:09,222 the more likely someone will get wind of this. 987 00:55:09,306 --> 00:55:10,866 Slaton said he was very clear with you. 988 00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:12,570 This is about setting the right conditions, 989 00:55:12,600 --> 00:55:14,019 creating leverage with the subject. 990 00:55:14,102 --> 00:55:15,913 We may only get him once in this state of mind. 991 00:55:15,937 --> 00:55:18,481 If we get nothing from him and this hits the papers, 992 00:55:18,565 --> 00:55:20,859 this will be our second public setback in a week. 993 00:55:20,942 --> 00:55:22,795 We should put as much effort into law enforcement 994 00:55:22,819 --> 00:55:24,654 - as we do managing perceptions. - Holden. 995 00:55:24,738 --> 00:55:26,590 Right now, we better put together a statement 996 00:55:26,614 --> 00:55:28,742 because looks like they got hold of it. 997 00:55:28,825 --> 00:55:29,825 Shit. 998 00:55:32,495 --> 00:55:34,456 I'll let them know it's an ongoing investigation. 999 00:55:34,539 --> 00:55:36,124 We're in the process of ID'ing bodies. 1000 00:55:36,207 --> 00:55:37,584 I don't think so. 1001 00:55:50,638 --> 00:55:52,849 How does the press find out everywhere we go? 1002 00:55:53,975 --> 00:55:55,101 I don't know, 1003 00:55:55,185 --> 00:55:57,645 but I hope we find something in that fucking truck. 1004 00:55:58,897 --> 00:56:01,097 I cannot comment on the individual at this time, 1005 00:56:01,149 --> 00:56:05,445 other than to say that we have issued a custodial warrant. 1006 00:56:05,528 --> 00:56:07,072 No charges have been issued. 1007 00:56:08,907 --> 00:56:11,659 Ladies and gentlemen, we will keep you apprised. 1008 00:56:23,213 --> 00:56:24,964 ♪ Lunatic fringe ♪ 1009 00:56:27,258 --> 00:56:29,677 ♪ I know you're out there ♪ 1010 00:56:32,680 --> 00:56:34,808 ♪ You're in hiding ♪ 1011 00:56:36,810 --> 00:56:39,729 ♪ And you hold your meetings ♪ 1012 00:56:42,232 --> 00:56:44,109 ♪ I can hear you coming ♪ 1013 00:56:46,945 --> 00:56:49,322 ♪ I know what you're after ♪ 1014 00:56:51,866 --> 00:56:54,285 ♪ We're wise to you this time ♪ 1015 00:56:54,369 --> 00:56:56,579 ♪ We're wise to you this time ♪ 1016 00:56:56,663 --> 00:56:58,748 ♪ We won't let you kill the laughter ♪ 1017 00:56:58,832 --> 00:57:03,086 ♪ Oh! 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